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[Agent Vega]

This is a rather personal question, but I can't think of anywhere else it would be appropriate to ask.

Since I first started, I have never used my hands to masturbate. Instead, I have always masturbated on the floor. It just came naturally for me to masturbate in this manner. I'm curious, does anyone else here masturbate in such a fashion?

[Pennpaul]

Not sure about the fit into All Topics. A bit ambiguous as you do not specify sexual orientation. I apologize ahead of time, but there are a lot of knot-hole jokes associated with floors and wooden barrels.

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[Agent Vega]

I'm a male heterosexual.

And to be specific, I get the pleasure from rubbing/pressing my penis against the floor, not inserting it into anything.

[Pennpaul]

I apologize for the implied ridicule. It is a serious matter that you address.

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[Sandi]

Agent Vega....

I am a woman, but let me give a couple of observations.

First, I think that makes total sense! What more simulates the 'traditional' male sex act than the superior position and going up and down 'on' something....or in something? Makes absolute sense to me. When having sex with a woman, you don't keep stroking your penis when it's inside, do you?....LOL...I mean, there's none left to stroke.

Secondly, I have told the story elsewhere, but I'll retell it briefly here. The man who introduced me to the fantasies, had his own first experience at 8 or 9....playing cowboys, alone in his room, pretending to be shot, crawling across the floor to his gun, having NO idea what sex or anything was, but this 'feeling' developed, the harder he pulled and PUSHED against the floor, and then the feeling 'grew', seemed to get 'nicer and nicer' and be leading to some 'peak' or something....and just when he reached his gun and (he was pretending and was alone) raised up to shoot his killer, he pretended to get the kill shot right in his own belly, and as he pushed his HARDEST against the floor in his death arch of his back UPWARD.....he climaxed. Dry, but he climaxed.

He said it was 'years' before he touched himself to masturbate. That first experience was that strong that it developed into 'the way he did it' for a long time.

And, I must add, as a woman, I find 'the crawl' a VERY arousing and sexually RAISING part of a female death fantasy, having been shot and holding my belly under me and crawling and rubbing my sex on the floor, or my naked sex on a deep pile or bearskin rug, or satin sheets......do it all the time, Agent Vega....lol.

Variety, you know? Try alternatives, try new things. But what you do sounds quite normal to me!

Sandi

[Agent Vega]

I'm not worried if it is "normal" or not. Just curious to know how rare this style of masturbation is.

Like I said, it came natural to me, and I was quite surprised when I learned that most other males masturbate with their hands.

I've tried using my hands before, but it just doesn't work. My brain won't let me ignore the fact that it is my own hand attempting to stimulate my penis, as the sensation goes both ways. External stimuli, such as running a soft stream from a shower hose over my member, seems to be more effective.

One advantage to masturbating on the floor growing up, is that it was easier to conceal from my parents, at least until I started discharging fluids through the act... However, I remedied this problem by securely placing a Ziploc bag around my penis!

Today, in the privacy of my own home, I take down my pants and place plastic paper on the floor.

[Vanessa]

I am a fan of beheading fantasies. Some of my best self-derived orgasms are while straddling a bench or saw horse and pretending it's a bascule to a guillotine. Of course, my climax comes as I imagine the heavy blade severing through my neck. All I usually wear for these sessions is a pair of seamless pantyhose (usually Wolford Fatal 15s) and a sexy pair of stiletto heel sandals. By the time I am done, the "bascule" is sopping wet.

I hoped this inspires!

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[Sandi]

Again, Agent Vega, I surely cannot speak for men, but what you say makes absolute and total sense to me in terms of how you developed your personal masturbation habits, and what about them stimulate you. My friend had the SAME 'problem' with touching himself, it just seemed 'wrong' or something at first. Thanks for sharing, I think it's fascinating and a cool subject, and very tough to bring up, yes, so thanks.

We have a different 'situation' with a different 'playing field', as women, so we have to touch ourself in order to put anything inside if we want internal stimulation....lol.

Sandi

[Agent Vega]

Yeah, I'm hoping to get some feedback from men, whether or not they masturbate in such a manner. Ironically, it seems the only ones with "balls" enough to approach this subject have been you women!

[JohnM]

[Mort DeAgne]

[Mr. X]

I've never even heard of that method, but it seems you're not alone.

Basically as I understand it, if I may don my amateur psychologist's cap, is you get into a 'groove' early and it becomes your go-to method, and it's hard to masturbate in any other fashion. I don't know if this is still an issue for you, the fluid issue, but I and I think a lot of guys-- I daresay most but who knows-- ejaculate into a wad of tissue paper when they're masturbating. Simple yet effective.

[Jimbo]

A Zip-Lock bag?? Well, necessity is the mother of invention.

For a while after discovering masturbation, I did it in bed, with no thought to the crusty sheets my mom would find. She probably thought it was due to "involuntary nocturnal emission". It wasn't until I thought to use kleenex to clean up the mess that she probably knew I was doing it on purpose. She never let on. Bless her heart!

I can remember my first orgasm. The warm spray in the shower felt so GOOD, I unscrewed the showerhead to get a forceful blast, lying down on my back in the tub. With my first ejaculation, I almost passed out. I thought I'd killed myself! I looked down at the warm liquid (warmer than the shower water), fully expecting to see BLOOD. "What's this sticky white stuff??" I soon moved my masturbatory site to the bed, and cut down on my hot water use considerably. Whacking off while sitting on the john was sometimes even better as I could easily hold "reading material" with one hand.

Thus, I developed the "visual excitement" that males are known for. Currently, my favorite means of "release" is at the computer, using my two picture viewers (Windows Picture Viewer and AC-DSee viewer) to get two different pics on the screen at the same time... like this:


(Click on pic)

I have a wide choice of "casting possibilites" here, but it is usually a foxy Black chick and a Nazi-ish blonde who have a naked battle to the death in my feverish mind, in a more perfect fantasy than is usually possible with any video or more detailed posed pictures. The casting changes with new "finds" as well as details in my fantasies, but the "outcome" is always gratifying.

Jimbo
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[joea64]

The late actor Dudley Moore said, in his Playboy interview, that when he was young, he frequently masturbated with a nice, soft rug in his family home. He recounted that he was terrifically embarrassed when his mother took a look at the rug one day and asked, in puzzlement, "Dear me, this rug's gotten all funny. Do you know what might have happened"?

[Pennpaul]

After my wife died, I tried various elements and devices from Adam & Eve. However, nothing can really substitute for physical contact and the warm envelopement of a vagina.

Masturbation is only a substitute for me.


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[celticfury]

sorry, agent. i like to have a nice, tight, slippery, well-lubricated grip on things

"Her c*nt gripped him like a warm, friendly fist."
-Jim Morrison, An American Prayer

[vladnos]

You're not alone, Agent Vega.

[Dick Hertz]

When I began masturbating in 7th or 8th grade, I would lie prone on the floor & get the job done. There happened to be a warm area on the floor where the hot water pipes ran, which made it nice.

Now, in my advanced age, I'm supine with Kleenex.

In case you missed it, here's what Ernest Borgnine had to say about it.

>DH
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[Sandi]

Hey, Guys, thanks for speaking up. I mean it. Agent Vega is right, of course, but really makes a general point that when the women enter these types of threads, we do tend to be more detailed in describing sexual things we do, ourselves, when alone.

I'm not a sexist...lol....but I do think that is 'normal', in the U.S. anyway, due to the way boys and girls grow up. There's a part of an 'ego' thing with men, I think....or maybe, an 'embarassing' thing.....or, maybe just 'it's more personal for men'.....but for a variety of reasons I am not describing at all well here (sorry...Sandi moving too quickly, brain not delivering proper words). It's the women who 'more obviously' flaunt their sex in clothing and looks and 'walks' and such...and are the 'sex objects' of our society, so I guess, maybe especially here where you get women who are really 'coming out' to have just the guts to come here and post or check it all out the first time, that we do the same things.

It's rare that men can be induced to be so public about such private things, especially as they were in childhood for them, and how they have become in adulthood for them.

It's REALLY cool, Gentlemen. Really cool. To listen to each of you. One spoke, another got more specific, and then each of you simply 'talked about personal experiences'. No shyness or whatever.

I'm not sure it will improve my sex life, but it sure is fun to read, because every single 'method', or 'way a boy developed into a man with his masturbation fantasies and styles'....makes sense. I think each of us can 'see' and understand what that first turn-on was....and why, once it felt so good and SO unusual (I don't think Jimbo is at ALL unusual for sort of expecting blood, either!), why each of you continued to do it that way, or 'grew' into new or additional ways.

You know Sandi....takes things in her mind to other levels. Because they DO connect, these dots about who we are.

And this, THE most touchy and personal and difficult to discuss of subjects, is just like anything else....when we listen to Others and how they developed and what their influences were on their lives and such.....we nod our heads and say, Yep, that makes sense, given the way he/she grew up.

Understanding. Respect for all.

Even through just the vehicle of sharing sex development, we learn that each of us is fine and normal...just depends on where and how we grew up and what the influences were and how certain things first 'hit' us....like an orgasm.

Cool stuff, Gentlemen. Thank you.

Sandi

[Jimbo]

[Zebra]

I usually lay on a pillow and basically hump it. I've tried the 'normal' way of giving myself a handjob but that doesn't work for me.

I've also never got a handjob from a woman. Never tried that.

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[Sandi]

Ah, the 'never tried that' situation....lol.

Regarding a woman 'giving a hand job' to a man, that is.

It's so basic and simple, yet many (most?) of 'us' blow it (NO pun intended) on that score, I think.

How can a woman possibly know 'what to do' to stimulate a man's penis when she does not have one? I mean, we have a small one....lol....but it's not quite the same thing.

And the very important corollary, of course....how can a man be expected to know and understand the body and stimulations of a woman, not having been one? As with the exquisite joys of oral sex for a woman. Your length we can 'handle', Gentlemen, large or small, and satisfaction 'comes', but that tongue......learn the secrets of the tongue and you'll have a partner wanting you forever....lol.

And of course I'm not really joking about that!

So my 'conclusions' remain the same, that there has to be a way to 'show' the partner what works.....yes, to the point of 'how to do it'.

That might not fly with a lot of the male-based 'requirements' to 'lead the sex'. I think men think they are supposed to know all these things automagically and it shows weakness if they ask "What and how do you like done to you, and what does it do to you and for you?".

Or maybe women are too shy or whatever to take an initiative and show their man....or talk to him...about certain stuff.

Not exactly a masturbation reply, but I thought it fit!

Sandi

[Neceros]

Wonder if Richard von Krafft-Ebing mentions that one?

[Sandi]

Neceros.....his most 'famous' work dealt mostly in fetishes and stuff, and yes, female stimulation.

I don't know what he'd say, and I hang no shingle from my door.

I'm just a woman and have built my own 'store of knowledge' about what works....and what does not work....in interpersonal situations. In bed and out.

So my conclusions will not draw international raves or comments, but I believe in them until something proves differently to me!

Sandi

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[Dairo]

I started out the way you did, Agent: on the floor. For a few months I had a carpet burn on my chin that I dared explain to no one. Then one day I discovered porn movies (I had until then been masturbating to Playboy, JCPenny's lingerie sections, and any picture of a beautiful woman I could get my hands on and hide long enough to 'manip' with what I thought would be my trademark red marker.) and from those learned the 'proper' method of masturbation, but unfortunately didn't have a ready supply of lubrication.

Near the end of puberty, I was masturbating in the shower, using soap for lube. I had learned to do so in other places (i.e. in bed, on the toilet) sans lube by sliding my foreskin up and down with the hand I was using to minimize actual friction.

Incidentally, due to the raw terror I still feel whenever I get the impression someone might find out I've been masturbating, I somehow taught myself how to consciously control the blood flow down there. As a result, if I focus, I can make the 'dog' 'heel', and nobody would be the wiser if I could manage to get the 'don't look at me' expression off my face. I can also briefly delay pending orgasms, but I have to be careful because I still haven't found the medium between 'holding off' and 'completely killing the mood'.

[chessman]

Hello Vega,

I too started with the prone position but switched to stroking when I began ejaculating.

May I suggest a web site which may give you some information for your benefit?

Try: Helthystrokes.com, you may find some answers there.

Regards,


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[Jimbo]

Dairo brought up using "lubes". Yes, I've tried it (the most "natural" feeling I found was actually Corn Huskers Lotion ), but it makes the act even more messy than it is already, so no more of that. The foreskin alone provides a smooth enough "stroke".

And thru the years I have tried various "devices", but all of those have fallen on the wayside as being more trouble than they are worth. As long as I have one good hand and an imagination, I will be satisfied in this respect.

Jimbo
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[magnum]

Hello Vega, You are one bold m*therf**ker to ask such a question to men like that . I buy anyway. He I don't usually mastubate unless one of my honeys, they do it for me with their mouths and tounges. If did, I like to have a good grip on things with lubrication, like that KY stuff. Rubbing up against a wall or bed would do the trick too. Put me on the list for both with the majority of it going with my hands.

magnum.

[kelli]

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[Agent Vega]

As the author of this thread, I have no qualms with anyone sharing their personal masturbatory experiences, regardless of gender.

[magnum]

[Agent Vega]